Posted by skiutah on Monday, May 24, 2010
The LDS church has recently announced that one of the most quoted sources of anti-Mormon literature — Mormon Doctrine — by Bruce R. McConkie, is finally being taken out of print: Mormon Doctrine book now out of print
At one time, nearly every Mormon family in the 1960s and 1970s had a copy of Mormon Doctrine prominently displayed on the bookshelf. In fact, Mormon Doctrine was used extensively in many Mormon church educational materials. However, over the last few decades it has slowly been thrown under the “not true anymore, he spoke as a delusional man” bus.
Many anti-Mormons and hate-MOs are also saddened by this event. One notable apostate was quoted as saying “Mormon Doctrine gives you a reference for all of the Mormon false teachings in one location… polygamy in heaven, the inferiority of Blacks, God having physical sex with Mary, hatred of the Catholic church, homophobia, God was a man, blood atonement, Jesus and Satan are brothers, Christ is a polygamist on planet Kolob… Bruce R. McConkie is the father of the modern anti-Mormon movement.”
Note: Many church leaders are quietly hopeful that this event could pave the way for the Book of Abraham to be taken out of print also.
“Yesterday’s LDS teachings, becoming today’s denials, one dead apostle at a time.” — editor from Deseret Books
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Posted by coventryrm on Sunday, May 23, 2010
Peter responded to Skiutahs recent post Mormonism get thee behind me. I have given his response much thought, at first I was going to write about how Peter completely validated skiutah’s post and could not have provided us a better real life example that many TBM’s do exactly what skiutah was claiming.
I decided however to address a statement that not only Peter made in his response but what seems to be a mantra used regularly by those defending the blatant contradictions their particular brand of faith has with things that are proven scientific facts.
“Those who have decided that the church is untrue always do so from a perceived physical facts standpoint. The problem is that physical facts are all over the place and not all evidence is completely accurate.”
When I see this statement my first thought is does this person really not understand how scientific theory works? Or that it just doesn’t work when applied to their specific contradiction?
“not all evidence is completely accurate” This may be true but does not automatically = “physical facts are all over the place”
Let’s take Evolution as an example that this mantra is often used on. Evolution is a Fact, but is still labeled a theory ….. Why is that? Because we are still learning about it and building on the theory as more data comes in we hone in on more specific understanding of how it actually works, but we KNOW it happened and is happening. That has not changed. A good example is that at one point it was thought that things evolve gradually and at a consistent speed over time, later we learned that it may proceed slowly with little or no change for a time then because of some change or influence that has a significant impact we get relatively rapid change. This gave us a much better understanding but DID NOT change the fact of Evolution.
The Irony that I find in Mormonism and when a Mormon claims that science is inconsistent and so therefore cannot disprove the Book of Mormon and the Mormon narrative when in reality science has done just that many times, but what has changed is the Mormon narrative or the Mormon interpretation of the narrative so that it can accommodate this new information.
I can give many examples but I think one will be sufficient for this post, The Book of Mormon introduction and the teachings and statements of the early church leaders regarding the origin of Native Americans.
Science has consistently moved forward and as it has advanced many of the early claims of the Mormon Church have either been proven false and or just silly, so the Church changes its story to accommodate but this TBM accuses science of being all over the place, interesting.
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Posted by skiutah on Thursday, May 20, 2010
Mormon senator Russell Pearce has sponsored a tough new immigration law in Arizona: Tough Arizona Law Targets Illegal Lamanites
Senator Pearce cited the LDS document of “13 Articles of Faith” as the reasoning behind the new tough “no-Lamanite love” law. However, many Latino-Lamanites not taking this sitting down. One source was quoted as saying “Father Lehi promised us the Americas. Our ancestors were here first and we will blossom like the rose, legally or illegally.”
Utah church leaders are quietly encouraging Arizona-Lamanites to pray (in Spanish) for the fulfillment of the Book of Mormon promise of their skin turning white and delightsome. This way brown skinned pure Americans can avoid being targeted by Arizona police for arrest and prosecution.
Update: Arizona officials have informed illegal Hispanic-Lamanites they have until July 29 to either become legal or turn white, otherwise it’s adios.
Hola, I'm Elder Pendejo, we claim to be about compassion, love, and charity. However, our 13 Articles of Faith prevent us from keeping illegal immigrants in the USA. It doesn't matter if your forefathers got here 12,000 years ago, go back to Mexico. Illegal brethren, adieu!
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Posted by skiutah on Monday, May 10, 2010
Recent DNA evidence shows that some Europeans have Neanderthal forefathers. The study shows that 1% to 4% of European genetic makeup comes from Neanderthal bloodlines: Neanderthal DNA found in humans
Church leaders hope that these Neanderthal ancestors can be identified so that their names can be added to the temple list for Baptism for the Dead. Utah officals predict the number of Neanderthals who posthumously accept Mormonism to quadruple the number of LDS spirit world conversions.
Utah officials admit it won’t be easy baptizing dead Neanderthals. One leader who spoke on the condition of anonymity said “honestly, we don’t know the names of all Neanderthals that were mating with humans from 100,000 B.C. to 30,000 B.C., but our prophet has revealed there are many long time spirit world inhabitants who caved in after seeing the DNA study. We’re grateful to our Heavenly Father for finally providing a situation where DNA is helping us.”
Note: A special fast and prayer séance will take place this coming Sunday. The hope is that spirit world Neanderthals will whisper through the veil their names to temple workers. To get in tune with the spirit, Mormons have been instructed to read “Clan of the Cavebear” or watch the lowbrow cult classic “Quest for Fire” before this coming weekend.
Hello, call me Oaphite, I'm a Neanderthal ancestor, I've had the spirit world missionary lessons, and thanks to DNA tests, I've just become eligible to have Baptism for the Dead performed for me. Please quit dragging your knuckles on this issue.
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