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Mormon Leader Can’t Believe Beliefs

Posted by skiutah on Wednesday, July 24, 2013

Here’s a post in the Salt Lake Tribune about a Mormon leader who can’t believe what he previously believed:
Mormon Leader Leaves

This guy’s experience can be explained by understanding the I-15 Mormons. I-15 Mormons live near Interstate 15 in Utah, Idaho, and Arizona, and there are a large number of remote I-15 Mormons living in Oregon, California, and Nevada. The I-15 Mormons fall into three groups:

A) Some are not curious at all about investigating anything that would cause them to experience anything uncomfortable in regards to their religion; this is a large percentage of the I-15’ers.

B) Another percentage will investigate, but are able to believe explanations for historical LDS practices or former LDS teachings.

C) Another percentage will investigate, and discover most of the “anti-Mormon” documentation is based on historical documents and formerly sanctioned LDS publications. If their belief in Mormonism is not based on feelings from God, then these folks tend to become inactive members and/or leave Mormonism.

For people in the A and B groups, they believe something is wrong with people in the C group. Either the C people have had “their feelings hurt”, or “couldn’t keep a commandment”, or “have a mental defect”. People in the A and B groups often “feel sad” for the people in the C group and “will pray for them”.

The B group and C groups tend to argue, and can’t understand how two people looking at the same set of facts, can interpret the same set of facts so differently. While the A group doesn’t want to get involved in any debates; anything that challenges their belief isn’t worth it.

For close-knit LDS families, it’s an embarrassment to have a family member in the C group. The C’ers are often ostracized and ridiculed.

Is it possible to keep people in the C group from leaving the Mormon church? Some suggestions:

1) Don’t whitewash Mormon history. Be more transparent. When the C’ers discover facts that contradict what they were taught, they feel deceived and misled. (The B group will argue that there was no deception. From the C group perspective, the B group misses the point, and vice versa)

2) Marginalize teachings that cannot ever be believed by a fact based C person (like Black people were cursed, humanity originated in Missouri, American Indians are descendants of Jews, the Book of Abraham, Polygamy was God’s idea, Gay people choose to be gay, and so on).

The A group won’t care, they’ll believe anything, it’s easier for this group to not ask questions. This is the current base of the I-15 Mormons.

The B group will argue about the origin of former teachings for a while, but will eventually give up (because their belief is based on God-sent feelings).

The C group will not feel like they were deceived and have wasted a portion of their lives on something that can’t be what it was advertised to be.

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Red Wine Chemical Extends Life

Posted by skiutah on Thursday, June 13, 2013

Good news for red wine drinkers: Red wine chemical could let you live to 150

God works in mysterious ways…

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More health benefits of coffee

Posted by skiutah on Wednesday, May 29, 2013

According to new research, coffee makes you stronger, smarter, and less prone to cancer and diabetes: Coffee health benefits

God packed many benefits into this amazing little bean…

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Woman, know thy place

Posted by skiutah on Tuesday, March 26, 2013

This opinion was printed in the Salt Lake Tribune: Woman, know thy place

Here’s the text, this is classic:

I read “April Mormon conference may make history: women will pray” (Tribune, March 19) with great disappointment. I may be a male-chauvinist piglet to many women, yet the fundamentals of scripture are unchanging.

The Apostle Paul divinely stated in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”

Woman was created for man; this world was made for men to lead households and prayers. Man was created in God’s image — not in a woman’s image.

American society has become so politically correct that it has spilled over to theology. Women, as well as children, may sing in church and participate in other ways.

If Brigham Young were alive today, I’m certain he would denounce women overshadowing the proper sphere of men. The sexes have different roles.

James A. Marples

Provo

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One would have to question a culture or religion that could produce such thoughts…

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Why Lamanites Have Small Breasts

Posted by skiutah on Friday, February 15, 2013

Scientists have discovered that eastern Asians experienced a genetic mutation 35,000 years ago that is responsible for these distinctive physical traits:
* Thicker hair
* Smaller breasts
* Distinctive teeth
* More sweat glands

Here’s the NY Times article: East Asian Physical Traits Linked to 35,000-Year-Old Mutation

How did these same human evolutionary attributes get transferred to the Lamanites in America? Here are some theories:
1. Father Lehi had unmentioned eastern Asian concubine stowaways hidden in his boat.
2. The climate in eastern Asian was much warmer 35,000 years ago and extra sweat glands would have been advantageous to the hunter-gatherers who lived at that time.
3. Thick hair and small breasts are visible sexual signals which, if preferred by men 35,000 years ago, could quickly become more common as the carriers had more children than the non-carriers.

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God Used Beer to Create Human Civilization

Posted by skiutah on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Scientists have found evidence humans began brewing alcohol 11,000 years ago in Turkey. Many experts believe that beer was a key component of early human societies that fueled the rise of human civilization. The article states “”Production and consumption of alcoholic beverages is an important factor in feasts facilitating the cohesion of social groups, … and in organizing collective work.”

http://www.livescience.com/25855-stone-age-beer-brewery-discovered.html

Some questions:

11,000 years ago, why did God use alcohol to enable the rise of human civilization?

Did Eve look better to Adam only after Adam had quaffed a few beers? Thus ensuring the propagation of the human species.

Was the “apple” in the Garden of Eden (in Missouri) in reality applejack?

Why did God wait until 1833 (D&C 89) to instruct humans that beer was bad? Why not decree prohibition 11,000 years ago?

When God introduced polygamy into modern human society (D&C 132), did God foresee that polygamy and alcohol were a bad mixture? What was God thinking? Can you imagine?

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History behind Mitt’s “binders full of women” comment…

Posted by skiutah on Thursday, October 18, 2012

New and everlasting binder.

con·cu·binder   /ˈkɒŋkyəˌbaɪn-der /
noun
1. Sultan or bishop’s record of what women belong to which men in a polygamous colony.
2. Party type originating from Colorado City.
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Origin:
1843 – 1890; Utah English (Reformed Egyptian concubīna, equivalent to concub-, variant stem of concumbere to lie)

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When is homicide justifiable?

Posted by skiutah on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Justifiable homocide

Justifiable homocide2

Justifiable homocide3

 

View that killing is sometimes justifiable

View that killing a person is never okay

War.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Self-defense in home.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Self-defense stand your ground when you feel threatened.

Justifiable homicide (depends on your state/country)

Murder

Death penalty.

Justifiable homicide (depends on your state/country)

Murder

Bar fight, somebody dies.

Justifiable homicide

Murder/manslaughter

Distracted while driving, accident occurs, somebody dies.

Justifiable homicide (it was an accident)

Murder/manslaughter

Hunting accident.

Justifiable homicide (it was an accident)

Murder/manslaughter

Parents deny child medical attention because it violates religious
beliefs; child dies.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Abused spouse snaps, kills abusive spouse.

Justifiable homicide

Murder/manslaughter

Assisted suicide: terminally ill person wants life ended humanely
without pain.

Justifiable homicide (depends on your state/country)

Murder

Suicide.

Justifiable homicide (of oneself)

Murder

Pull plug on brain dead relative when they could be kept alive for
years.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Police kill a dangerous criminal committing a crime.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

God says it’s okay to kill (God tells Nephi to kill Laban, God
tells terrorists to kill, and so on).

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Surgeon terminates life of one conjoined twin in order to save the
life of other twin.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Woman chooses to have a late term abortion.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Woman chooses to have an early term abortion.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Abortion where mother’s life in danger.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Abortion of pregnancy from rape.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Abortion of pregnancy from incest.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

God says it’s okay to kill abortion doctor.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

Extra IVF embryos destroyed/never used.

Justifiable homicide

Murder

RU-486 pill.

Justifiable homicide

Murder (blocks hormone required to maintain early pregnancy)

Morning after pill.

Justifiable homicide

Murder (possibly prevents implantation of fertilized egg)

Birth control (estrogen/progestin).

Justifiable homicide

Murder (possibly prevents implantation of fertilized egg)

Spermicide, Sponge, Condom, IUD.

Justifiable homicide

Murder (preventing sperm from creating life)

Sterilization/vasectomy.

Justifiable homicide

Murder (preventing possible future lives)

Male masturbation.

Justifiable homicide

Murder (“tossing out” good sperm that could be used to create life)

 

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Where did God come from?

Posted by skiutah on Wednesday, October 3, 2012

God magically created itself...

References:
Who created God?
Where did God come from?

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Krishna and Christ

Posted by skiutah on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Krishna and Christ

Krishna and Christ

Krishna and Christ

Krishna and Christ seem pretty similar…

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