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Joseph Smith: a Zelph Made Man

Posted by skiutah on Monday, June 16, 2008

Joseph Smith received this vision from God about Zelph:

“I discovered that the person whose skeleton we had seen was a white Lamanite, a large, thick-set man, and a man of God. His name was Zelph. He was a warrior and chieftain under the great prophet Onandagus, who was known from the eastern sea to the Rocky mountains. The curse was taken from Zelph, or, at least, in part-one of his thigh bones was broken by a stone flung from a sling, while in battle, years before his death. He was killed in battle by the arrow found among his ribs, during a great struggle of the Lamanites and Nephites. (History of the Church 2:79-80).

The official translation of the Book of Zelph can be found at this website: The Book of Zelph

If you take the Melph challenge, you can come to know of the truthfulness of the Book of Zelph, another testament of the Book of Mormon.

Indeed, Zelph was a white Lamanite who lived in Illinois. If DNA analysis could be done on General Zelph’s bones, they would conclusively show his ancestors are from Israel and certainly not from Asia.

Ask yourzelph, Joseph Smith could not have made this up, right?

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14 Responses to “Joseph Smith: a Zelph Made Man”

  1. deaconj123 said

    The sprit is strong with this one. Any idea of how many Lamanites died of zelf-inflicted wounds?

  2. ditchu said

    speak for your zelph. I think this demonistrates a lack of understanding and smacks of ignorance.

  3. coventryrm said

    I agree, but you must be talking about the LDS not those that can see how silly it ALL is.

  4. skiutah said

    The most likely answer is that Joseph Smith must have enjoyed pulling legs. The Zelph vision demonstrates how gullible people can be.

    Joseph must have gone home that night and said “Emma, Fanny, Zina, Sarah, Marinda, Helen, Flora, Rhoda, Agnes… you’re not going to believe the whopper I told today…”

  5. ditchu said

    Where in the H* did you dig up this book of Zelph stuff? Is this creative writing or do you have a ligitimate reference where I can seek out what you are talking about for myself?
    -D

  6. ditchu said

    C.
    No, I’m not talking about the LDS. I think it is foolish to pook fun at some dead dude by saying things that just sound silly and atributing those things to him.

  7. coventryrm said

    (History of the Church 2:79-80).

  8. SkiUtah said

    yes, Joseph Smith’s Zelph vision is recorded in official LDS church publications from the Mormon church. Not made up stuff.

    It’s hard to believe when first start reading this stuff, many people react the same way… “I can’t believe that…that’s not true… I was never taught that…”

  9. SkiUtah said

    >> think it is foolish to pook fun at some dead dude by saying things that just sound silly and atributing those things to him.

    And if you’re referring to the “Book of Zelph”, interestingly, those are exactly the same types of comments that people make about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.

  10. blazeheliski said

    “Where in the H* did you dig up this book of Zelph stuff? Is this creative writing or do you have a ligitimate reference where I can seek out what you are talking about for myself?
    -D”

    The book of Zelph stuff is a parody written by someone with way too much time on their hands. I read some of it – it is pretty funny.

    If you want info on the Zelph legend as it relates ot Mormonism, follow the link below. It is fully referenced.

    Zelph

  11. coventryrm said

    Blaze

    Your link to the information is an interesting article by a BYU apologetic. His sources for information are accurate however I chuckled throughout, if I used his logic about revising LDS Church History basically he is saying nothing is off limits to be changed if the current Leaders want it to be so. They could Change the First Vision since the official one is not written by JS either in fact JS wrote very little himself. The Zelph issue is just one of many examples how the LDS church really does have a problem when it comes to the Book of Mormon and its Geography etc…. it seems the official church position at the moment is to let members come up with thier own rationales while the leaders keep pounding home the “it is a matter of faith” message while at the same time slowly change the most damaging things regarding thier claims or credibilty such as the introduction to the Book of Mormon and hopefully in a few more years the mainstream members will just forgot or not know that the LDS church taught as doctrine that the American Indians were of Jewish decent.

  12. blazeheliski said

    You are correct. It is an article written by a believing Mormon trying to make sense of Zelph. I just thought it would be good to show Ditchu an article of how current Mormons explain Zelph to contrast the article linking “The Book of Zelph.”

  13. coventryrm said

    I agree, it can’t hurt for the faithful LDS to see that there is actually discussion going in thier own ranks in regards to the things that SkiUtah and I post on here.

    Did you finish the Shock Doctrine yet?

  14. blazeheliski said

    I got half way through the book in Cabo. I am 3/4 the way through now. Things have slowed down a bit on the reading front with work, kids, etc. A full analysis to come soon! 🙂

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