Comments on: Archived LDS Quotes of the Day http://coventryrm.wordpress.com God myths have survived because smart people are very good at rationalizing things that they came to believe for non smart reasons Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:19:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: SkiUtah http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-52 SkiUtah Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:41:38 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-52 Anytime you tell males that polygamy is required to attain the highest degree of heaven, the result will be predictable, old men marrying lots of young women. My g-g-grandfather was a mormon polygamist. As he aged into his 40s and 50s, one thing stayed consistent, he kept marrying 15 year girls... Anytime you tell males that polygamy is required to attain the highest degree of heaven, the result will be predictable, old men marrying lots of young women.

My g-g-grandfather was a mormon polygamist. As he aged into his 40s and 50s, one thing stayed consistent, he kept marrying 15 year girls…

]]> By: elder joseph http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-47 elder joseph Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:20:32 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-47 coventryrm " I am told by the LDS once we die it will all make sense." I have been told this many times when I asked my questions ... I'd rather not give my wife or daughter to a Mormon 'God in training' or my life and money to a church who's only answer is , it will all make sense when we die . It makes sense not to be fooled or taken advantage in this life .Although this day and age in Mormonism its not too bad , I'm thinking more about the early Latter Day Saint women/teen girls who were held in spiritual blackmail/bullying over polygamy with supposed Priesthood bearing Royalty and future Gods. Wolves in Sheeps clothing is what they were. coventryrm

” I am told by the LDS once we die it will all make sense.”

I have been told this many times when I asked my questions … I’d rather not give my wife or daughter to a Mormon ‘God in training’ or my life and money to a church who’s only answer is , it will all make sense when we die .

It makes sense not to be fooled or taken advantage in this life .Although this day and age in Mormonism its not too bad , I’m thinking more about the early Latter Day Saint women/teen girls who were held in spiritual blackmail/bullying over polygamy with supposed Priesthood bearing Royalty and future Gods.

Wolves in Sheeps clothing is what they were.

]]> By: coventryrm http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-35 coventryrm Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:04:49 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-35 I think Sagan would 100% go along with the age of the Earth, Origin of man as do 99.8% of the scientist that actually practice in that field of science. You should read those two Sagan books that I mentioned he makes it pretty clear what he thinks about those things and how certain they are as facts andwhy. I think Sagan would 100% go along with the age of the Earth, Origin of man as do 99.8% of the scientist that actually practice in that field of science. You should read those two Sagan books that I mentioned he makes it pretty clear what he thinks about those things and how certain they are as facts andwhy.

]]> By: MCQ http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-33 MCQ Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:50:15 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-33 Coventry, that comment is full of unfounded assumptions leading to unsubstantiated conclusions. I think the things that you assume we know to be true are mostly not "known" at all, and I think, based on his quote, Sagan would agree with me. Coventry, that comment is full of unfounded assumptions leading to unsubstantiated conclusions. I think the things that you assume we know to be true are mostly not “known” at all, and I think, based on his quote, Sagan would agree with me.

]]> By: coventryrm http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-21 coventryrm Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:01 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-21 MCQ I guess for me it goes back to the truth question and what Sagan had to say. It needs to be consistent with what we already know to be true. The flood is dated we know how long ago it was to have happened. We also know that at that time the continents were pretty close to how they are now much had changed in 4000 years in that regard. So for the Garden of Eden to have been in Missouri for Noah to have built his Ark in this area of the world, then the flood would have had to been global. That also doesn't even take into the time line of Adam, regardless of how you have reconciled origins of man etc, isn't there a pretty clear time line of when Adam was actually on the Earth? So by him being in North America you are saying that the first man that could think and express himself symbolically lived here, that is also inconsistent with what we already know to be true. MCQ

I guess for me it goes back to the truth question and what Sagan had to say. It needs to be consistent with what we already know to be true.

The flood is dated we know how long ago it was to have happened. We also know that at that time the continents were pretty close to how they are now much had changed in 4000 years in that regard. So for the Garden of Eden to have been in Missouri for Noah to have built his Ark in this area of the world, then the flood would have had to been global.

That also doesn’t even take into the time line of Adam, regardless of how you have reconciled origins of man etc, isn’t there a pretty clear time line of when Adam was actually on the Earth? So by him being in North America you are saying that the first man that could think and express himself symbolically lived here, that is also inconsistent with what we already know to be true.

]]> By: mcquinn http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-19 mcquinn Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:25:27 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-19 I think you're right, about he first quote, but it sounds like McConkie. He certainly agreed with te sentiment. Church leaders now, while making no official statements on evolution, have clearly changed in their personal opinions on the matter (with some notable exceptions like Russell Nelson). I suppose we will know more about everything after we die, eventually, but we can also know more now about a lot of important things. I'm not sure I care much about the actual location of Eden, but if you believe it was an actual physical place, Missouri is not any crazier than any other location. The fall makes sense to me, and evolution makes sense to me. How these things interrelate is completely unknown, of course, but that is not of critcal importance to me either. I think you’re right, about he first quote, but it sounds like McConkie. He certainly agreed with te sentiment. Church leaders now, while making no official statements on evolution, have clearly changed in their personal opinions on the matter (with some notable exceptions like Russell Nelson).

I suppose we will know more about everything after we die, eventually, but we can also know more now about a lot of important things. I’m not sure I care much about the actual location of Eden, but if you believe it was an actual physical place, Missouri is not any crazier than any other location. The fall makes sense to me, and evolution makes sense to me. How these things interrelate is completely unknown, of course, but that is not of critcal importance to me either.

]]> By: coventryrm http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-16 coventryrm Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:38:29 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-16 Apparently from my experince on the other blog, the only real official church statement was in 1909 or so. Now there is not an actual official stance, one of those things that we just can't seem to really understand how the fall of adam, garden of eden being in missouri and evolution can all actually be true. I am told by the LDS once we die it will all make sense. Apparently from my experince on the other blog, the only real official church statement was in 1909 or so. Now there is not an actual official stance, one of those things that we just can’t seem to really understand how the fall of adam, garden of eden being in missouri and evolution can all actually be true. I am told by the LDS once we die it will all make sense.

]]> By: SkiUtah http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-15 SkiUtah Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:41:46 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-15 It's obvious from JFS that evolution had no place in Mormon doctrine. He stated that if evolution is true, then the Church is false. Does anybody know what is the current Church leaders say about evolution nowadays? It’s obvious from JFS that evolution had no place in Mormon doctrine. He stated that if evolution is true, then the Church is false.

Does anybody know what is the current Church leaders say about evolution nowadays?

]]> By: coventryrm http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-12 coventryrm Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:10:44 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-12 Wasn't this quote from JFS, doctrines of salvation, just edited by McConkie Wasn’t this quote from JFS, doctrines of salvation, just edited by McConkie

]]> By: MCQ http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-11 MCQ Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:46:12 +0000 http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/lds-quote-of-the-day/#comment-11 Yep, McConkie was a black and white guy. Statements like this have a certain logical force, but I think they set up a false dichotomy. It may be accurate to say that we can't have both evolution and the fall, but we may not know everything about those two concepts yet. I'd just as soon leave the matter open to further light and truth. It may be that McConkie now wishes he had done the same. Yep, McConkie was a black and white guy. Statements like this have a certain logical force, but I think they set up a false dichotomy. It may be accurate to say that we can’t have both evolution and the fall, but we may not know everything about those two concepts yet. I’d just as soon leave the matter open to further light and truth. It may be that McConkie now wishes he had done the same.

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