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		<title>By: Brooke Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was that piece of shit &quot;Joe Schmo&quot; not drowned at birth? And,looks like the self proclaimed seer was definitely a flim flam man, who was bopping anything he laid eyes on..He had like 30 wives, but the momo&#039;s dont tell ya that, or that he was tried in court for fortune telling,found guilty...he also printed his own money, and with being a thief, for stealing money from folks by trying to find buried treasure on farmland, ya right!His ass shoulda been hung long before he started being a scam artist..I know exactly what goes on in those stupid temples, and I am telling everyone!!!Looks just like the Masons temples, Isn&#039;t that plagerism? Check it out for yourselves..This is a prime example why bedding down with your cousin is illegal! And so the religious war goes on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was that piece of shit &#8220;Joe Schmo&#8221; not drowned at birth? And,looks like the self proclaimed seer was definitely a flim flam man, who was bopping anything he laid eyes on..He had like 30 wives, but the momo&#8217;s dont tell ya that, or that he was tried in court for fortune telling,found guilty&#8230;he also printed his own money, and with being a thief, for stealing money from folks by trying to find buried treasure on farmland, ya right!His ass shoulda been hung long before he started being a scam artist..I know exactly what goes on in those stupid temples, and I am telling everyone!!!Looks just like the Masons temples, Isn&#8217;t that plagerism? Check it out for yourselves..This is a prime example why bedding down with your cousin is illegal! And so the religious war goes on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the blatant lie thing interesting since we mostly just post quotes and articles and for the most part any commentary is either obviously sarcastic or just personal perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the blatant lie thing interesting since we mostly just post quotes and articles and for the most part any commentary is either obviously sarcastic or just personal perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: skiutah</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>skiutah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?

I don&#039;t think John read the original post very well. There were two links, one to a newspaper article about missionaries in Colorado and another link to a youtube video of some missionaries at a zone conference mocking a baptist minister. There was a comment about the youtube video being a zone conference. John thought the comment about the youtube video was in regards to the newspaper article about missionaries mocking the Catholic church.

2. Since I’ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?

A lot of the material posted on this blog are direct quotes from LDS leaders from LDS publications.

3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?

Nothing, the LDS church is a great source of humor, the LDS church is to bloggers what George W. Bush was to late night comedy.

4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of?

None.

5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?

Not according to LDS leaders. For example, Joseph F. Smith taught &quot;God our Heavenly Father is still progressing...then I repeat that even God our Heavenly Father has not reached the ultimatum of His greatness, His power, or His capacity, but that He is continually increasing and expanding in power...&quot; Conference talk, 1896

In the LDS publication, The Gosepl Through the Ages, on page 104 it states &quot;Mormon prophets have continuously taught the sublime truth that God the Eternal Father was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth life similar that through which we are now passing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think John read the original post very well. There were two links, one to a newspaper article about missionaries in Colorado and another link to a youtube video of some missionaries at a zone conference mocking a baptist minister. There was a comment about the youtube video being a zone conference. John thought the comment about the youtube video was in regards to the newspaper article about missionaries mocking the Catholic church.</p>
<p>2. Since I’ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?</p>
<p>A lot of the material posted on this blog are direct quotes from LDS leaders from LDS publications.</p>
<p>3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?</p>
<p>Nothing, the LDS church is a great source of humor, the LDS church is to bloggers what George W. Bush was to late night comedy.</p>
<p>4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of?</p>
<p>None.</p>
<p>5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?</p>
<p>Not according to LDS leaders. For example, Joseph F. Smith taught &#8220;God our Heavenly Father is still progressing&#8230;then I repeat that even God our Heavenly Father has not reached the ultimatum of His greatness, His power, or His capacity, but that He is continually increasing and expanding in power&#8230;&#8221; Conference talk, 1896</p>
<p>In the LDS publication, The Gosepl Through the Ages, on page 104 it states &#8220;Mormon prophets have continuously taught the sublime truth that God the Eternal Father was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth life similar that through which we are now passing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?

What details did I make up?  I posted a newspaper article and then wrote what I had experienced on my mission.  


2. Since I’ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?

Believe what you want, again what were the blatant lies? I simply posted an article and commented on my experience as a Mormon Missionary

3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?  

I think it is silly and feel sorry for those that actually believe and buy into such obvious nonsense and it is just too easy to find stuff, kind of like picking low hanging fruit.  

4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of? 
  
 None, I am atheist 

5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?  

No the myths keep changing with scientific discovery and the influence of social conscience.    

John 

You asked me if you answered my question, I simply said yes you did.  

I think you have clearly shown in your answer that you will make any excuse to argue that there was no harm and that what the missionaries did was not offensive, fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?</p>
<p>What details did I make up?  I posted a newspaper article and then wrote what I had experienced on my mission.  </p>
<p>2. Since I’ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?</p>
<p>Believe what you want, again what were the blatant lies? I simply posted an article and commented on my experience as a Mormon Missionary</p>
<p>3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?  </p>
<p>I think it is silly and feel sorry for those that actually believe and buy into such obvious nonsense and it is just too easy to find stuff, kind of like picking low hanging fruit.  </p>
<p>4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of? </p>
<p> None, I am atheist </p>
<p>5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?  </p>
<p>No the myths keep changing with scientific discovery and the influence of social conscience.    </p>
<p>John </p>
<p>You asked me if you answered my question, I simply said yes you did.  </p>
<p>I think you have clearly shown in your answer that you will make any excuse to argue that there was no harm and that what the missionaries did was not offensive, fine.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good. Now I have questions for you.

1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?

2. Since I&#039;ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?

3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?

4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of?

5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good. Now I have questions for you.</p>
<p>1. Why did you make up details on this article to make it more dramatic?</p>
<p>2. Since I&#8217;ve seen blatant lies in the things you wrote on this article of an event in which I was an eye witness, how am I to believe anything else you ever write?</p>
<p>3. What is it that you have against the LDS church?</p>
<p>4. What church is it that you believe Christ is the head of?</p>
<p>5. Is the Lord the same yesterday today and forever?</p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, John it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, John it does.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I&#039;d be happy to explain.

One of the missionaries was holding up his Book of Mormon as if he was preaching to the congregation of another church. I do not consider that a &quot;mocking&quot; situation. That is exactly what missionaries are supposed to do, teach everyone they possibly can.

Exactly like the picture of that missionary illustrated, I actually did preach at another church with the Book of Mormon and Bible.. (Vanguard Christian Church on Academy in Colorado Springs July 2006) It was &quot;open-mic&quot; night at the church and nobody was talking about Jesus. (go figure) So my companion and I spoke up. We preached about Christ. We found common ground and taught truth to the people at the church, which I&#039;m sure was a very foreign concept to them. Within two months, 6 people from the congregation became members of the LDS Church.

Does that answer your question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I&#8217;d be happy to explain.</p>
<p>One of the missionaries was holding up his Book of Mormon as if he was preaching to the congregation of another church. I do not consider that a &#8220;mocking&#8221; situation. That is exactly what missionaries are supposed to do, teach everyone they possibly can.</p>
<p>Exactly like the picture of that missionary illustrated, I actually did preach at another church with the Book of Mormon and Bible.. (Vanguard Christian Church on Academy in Colorado Springs July 2006) It was &#8220;open-mic&#8221; night at the church and nobody was talking about Jesus. (go figure) So my companion and I spoke up. We preached about Christ. We found common ground and taught truth to the people at the church, which I&#8217;m sure was a very foreign concept to them. Within two months, 6 people from the congregation became members of the LDS Church.</p>
<p>Does that answer your question?</p>
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		<title>By: skiutah</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1238</link>
		<dc:creator>skiutah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think John got two separate topics mixed up. One is in regards to the Mormon missionaries that were mocking the Catholic church. Here&#039;s a link to that article (from above):

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story/LDS-Missionaries-Photographed-Mocking-Catholic/vXiknm1XyUCAEbK_Lq5_wg.cspx

Then John confused that with a second item posted (from above in original posting):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P1UrS0U9dUw

Which shows missionaries mocking other religions at a Zone conference (different from the missionaries mocking the Catholic church).

Or perhaps this one which also shows missionaries mocking other religions at a zone conference:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DnVYV2KqH3Y

Or maybe he confused it with this one:
http://fieldsofgarlic.com/lj/400x600_mg2006_kissing_mormons.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think John got two separate topics mixed up. One is in regards to the Mormon missionaries that were mocking the Catholic church. Here&#8217;s a link to that article (from above):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story/LDS-Missionaries-Photographed-Mocking-Catholic/vXiknm1XyUCAEbK_Lq5_wg.cspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.kutv.com/content/news/topnews/story/LDS-Missionaries-Photographed-Mocking-Catholic/vXiknm1XyUCAEbK_Lq5_wg.cspx</a></p>
<p>Then John confused that with a second item posted (from above in original posting):<br />
<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P1UrS0U9dUw" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P1UrS0U9dUw</a></p>
<p>Which shows missionaries mocking other religions at a Zone conference (different from the missionaries mocking the Catholic church).</p>
<p>Or perhaps this one which also shows missionaries mocking other religions at a zone conference:<br />
<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DnVYV2KqH3Y" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DnVYV2KqH3Y</a></p>
<p>Or maybe he confused it with this one:<br />
<a href="http://fieldsofgarlic.com/lj/400x600_mg2006_kissing_mormons.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://fieldsofgarlic.com/lj/400&#215;600_mg2006_kissing_mormons.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent more of my life within the LDS culture and community that out of it I served a mission I know what I saw and how LDS behave and say amongst themselves... I used to be part of the “Group” I do know what I am talking about when it comes to the smug attitude that LDS have towards other religions.  After all you do have ALL the truth everyone else either has a portion of or skewed view of the truth…. Come on start being honest with yourself and stop with the denial…… 
John 

Not sure what you meant by this comment 

“Sure, one of them took a picture “mocking” the church by holding up a Book of Mormon. The fact of the matter however, is that he should be preaching to the congregation of the church. That is why he was out.”  

Sounds a little smug to me……care to explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent more of my life within the LDS culture and community that out of it I served a mission I know what I saw and how LDS behave and say amongst themselves&#8230; I used to be part of the “Group” I do know what I am talking about when it comes to the smug attitude that LDS have towards other religions.  After all you do have ALL the truth everyone else either has a portion of or skewed view of the truth…. Come on start being honest with yourself and stop with the denial……<br />
John </p>
<p>Not sure what you meant by this comment </p>
<p>“Sure, one of them took a picture “mocking” the church by holding up a Book of Mormon. The fact of the matter however, is that he should be preaching to the congregation of the church. That is why he was out.”  </p>
<p>Sounds a little smug to me……care to explain?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://coventryrm.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/lds-missionaries-photographed-mocking-catholic-church/#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coventryrm,

It makes me sick that you would post an article about something you know so little about.

This was not a conference, meeting, or anything else. These missionaries went to see the area on preparation day. 

Also, you probably didn&#039;t know, the Catholic Church has come back, apologized to the missionaries for the accusations. The Catholic Church was trying to charge the missionaries with vandalism; until some members of the church found a picture of the same statue that was taken prior to the date the missionaries took the picture and the head was clearly already broken off the statue. 

In the town that this occured, every six weeks, the people from the town call the mission president and ask him to pull the missionaries from the area. Saying they are unwanted because it is an all Catholic community. 

They were looking for ways to get them out of the town for years which is why they put together a fraudulent accusation against the missionaries. Sure, one of them took a picture &quot;mocking&quot; the church by holding up a Book of Mormon. The fact of the matter however, is that he should be preaching to the congregation of the church. That is why he was out.

Thank you for making up tons of details to this case. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. 

Now sit down, and shut the hell up.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coventryrm,</p>
<p>It makes me sick that you would post an article about something you know so little about.</p>
<p>This was not a conference, meeting, or anything else. These missionaries went to see the area on preparation day. </p>
<p>Also, you probably didn&#8217;t know, the Catholic Church has come back, apologized to the missionaries for the accusations. The Catholic Church was trying to charge the missionaries with vandalism; until some members of the church found a picture of the same statue that was taken prior to the date the missionaries took the picture and the head was clearly already broken off the statue. </p>
<p>In the town that this occured, every six weeks, the people from the town call the mission president and ask him to pull the missionaries from the area. Saying they are unwanted because it is an all Catholic community. </p>
<p>They were looking for ways to get them out of the town for years which is why they put together a fraudulent accusation against the missionaries. Sure, one of them took a picture &#8220;mocking&#8221; the church by holding up a Book of Mormon. The fact of the matter however, is that he should be preaching to the congregation of the church. That is why he was out.</p>
<p>Thank you for making up tons of details to this case. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. </p>
<p>Now sit down, and shut the hell up.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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